KWallet to SecretService, a client application: name wanted

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As i wrote in the previous post, now the KWallet service has been splitted in a compatibility layer that exposes the old KWallet api, but actually consumes the Secret Service API, provided by default by the old KWallet daemon converted in a secretservice-only provider.

Another pain point is the application used to look inside the wallets, KWalletmanager, which only speaks the KWallet api and looks a bit dated nowdays:

I am working on a new application which goal is strictly to be a client for Secret Service. It can access passwords of any Secret Service provider (being KWallet, Gnome-keyring, KeepassXC, oo7 or whatever else) and should hopefully look a bit more modern and simple, while still being powerful:

Both as a desktop application or a mobile one:

For items imported from KWallet supports editing the values of type “Map” as well:

As well as visualizing “binary” entries (here super censored for obvious reasons 😉

The application can be tested at https://invent.kde.org/mart/kwallets

But has a fundamental problem, for which i need help… Right now is just called “KWallets” which can be kinda confusing with old KWallet and KWalletManager, so it probably needs a new name, any opinion is welcome 😄.

29 thoughts on “KWallet to SecretService, a client application: name wanted”

    3. Michael

      👍 very much

      It makes it clear what this technology *does*, whereas KWallet confused me for a long while when I first entered the KDE universe. I thought it had something to do with money, like holding my credit card credentials.

  4. Fred

    Some suggestions beginning with K :
    – Konfidential (Konfident)
    – Kastel
    – Koffer / Kofferraum (tresor)
    – Kastro (Greek)
    😉

  6. pierre4l

    I started thinking of an alternative for a wallet and could only think of a purse. Then I thought well it’s more of a password manager, not a wallet which could these days get muddled with cryptocurrency. And then I thought of ‘Purseword’, a sort of happy amalgamation of words and wallets.

    A quick web search isn’t throwing up this word. Surely I’m not the first person to ever entertain its existence? Go and grab it while you still can!

  8. Hazel

    plasma-secret-sauce
    locksmith
    cockatoo (bird that can open locks with its intelligence)

  10. Michael

    I’m so glad you’re addressing this issue as KWallet was on thing that I would hide from new users when I’d set up Kubuntu for them. It wasn’t intuitive at all. I like that this will be interoperable with KeepassXC, excellent.

  11. Berniyh

    Is this going to be part of Plasma? Then I think I’d call it Plasma Wallet or maybe Plasma Safe. Or be simple and just call it Plasma Passwords.
    I know that KDE has a long history of goofy names and I like quite a few of them, but for such important apps, maybe it’s better to keep it straight forward. 🙂

    Just to make sure I understood this correctly: with your approach it would be possible to use KeePassXC as the main Password Manager and then your program could access that?
    Or would your program access the KeePass database directly?
    For me it’s important to use a dbx database, since I use that on Android as well (via KeePassDX).

    1. Kevin

      I also like Plasma Wallet.

      But I guess that would also be nice to have as a name for a real wallet that can do things like Google Wallet can do, especially for Plasma Mobile

  14. Edward Kigwana

    Credential Manager, because it makes it obvious what the application does using clear, direct, and honest language. And that is with a “C”

  15. Trap

    K007 ? 😄

    Joking aside, I agree with those who say that the name of the application should be as clear as possible to the end user.

  17. Niels

    I’m in the “keep it super clear” camp, I love the goofy ones such as K007 but “end userness” is a factor in play in growing Plasma’s “market share”. Also, without ‘branding’ and a generic name, people immediately know what it is:

    “Passwords”
    (binary name plasma-passwords or kpasswords)

    Also greatly helps with translations:

    – Passwörter
    – Mots de passe
    – Contraseñas
    – Wachtwoorden
    – Hasła

    Anyway, keep up the great work!

  20. Gnomasz

    +1 for Kredentials or KeepSecret. These names tell the user what it does, yet have the K
    -1 for Keys, Passwords or any other common word. These are a pain to search solutions and bugs for. If you search for KDE Passwords, you’ll probably get way more Kwallet and maybe some SDDM or wifi configuration results then for this new app.

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